Max vs Lewis: Who's at Fault? | The F1 Breakdown | Italian Grand Prix

The Italian Grand Prix was an incredible race! But the Max vs Lewis crash was a contentious moment that needs breaking down. So let's go over it, who's fault was it?

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  • What do you think? Would love a discussion about this, just keep it nice! Check our Fuel For Fans here: bit.ly/DR61XFFF4 Do subscribe! We are going to be releasing many more of these breakdowns in the near future!

    Driver61Driver616 kun oldin
    • @RakkerData - Lewis tried to bully Max at Monza and it didn't work, Lewis knows how aggressive Max is and will not back down especially if they're both side by side. How many times has Lewis crashed into Nico Rosberg or vise versa because they're both fighting for the championship. Anyone able to challenge Lewis for the championship is going to have crashes with Lewis. If Leclerc, Norris, Richardo, Russell, Sianz, Vettle, Occon or any other driver had a car able to compete with Lewis, they would all be crashing into Lewis because Lewis will not back down from any of them. Max just happens to finally have a car able to compete with Mercedes and Lewis will fight him until one of them crashes.

      ReachBlows DickReachBlows DickKun oldin
    • Lewis needs to increase his aggression and stop giving max space. I personally think max is at fault here, but ill admit i am biased based on the fact that i dont like Red Bull. 100% agree that Lewis was not aggressive enough though. I just feel that max being an experienced racing driver had to know the probability of getting in front of lewis for turn 2 wasnt going to happen though. I would call the passing move more than a little ambitious, even bordering on being ill advised. Its kinda like just tossing up a low percentage shot in basketball. Most likely to end badly.

      Brad HarbordBrad HarbordKun oldin
    • @RakkerData - If Lewis was ahead of Max at Silverstone, why was Max's rear hit by Lewis' front? If Lewis was "ahead", it would have been Max's front hitting Lewis' rear, but that didn't happen and Lewis was rightfully and very leniently penalized for it. It seems you only apply the Senna comment for Lewis but not for Max. Senna was talking about all racers, not just Lewis. Also Lewis was in Max's exact same situation in 2016 on the last lap in Austria, Lewis was ahead and Nico hit Lewis' rear with his front. Nico was to blame and you have no issue with that, but when it's Lewis doing the same to Max you blame the opposite car this time because it's Lewis doing the hitting.

      ReachBlows DickReachBlows DickKun oldin
    • @ReachBlows Dick ok, so as we saw earlier at Monza. Verstappen didn't leave much space to Hamilton either and same at Imola. Both times Hamilton had to go over the curbs and of to the run of area. Is that more okay because it is Hamilton and not any other driver beeing pushed off? And at Silverstone, Hamiltons car was ahead in the corner, Max and Hamilton made contact. But it was Hmailton who was on the inside of the corner. I can say that Lewis could backed off and let Max have the corner for himself. And as Ayrton said: ¨If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you no longer a racing driver¨. Hamilton did go for the gap and was ahead in the corner

      RakkerDataRakkerDataKun oldin
    • @huy nguyen if the corner wasn't there, there wouldn't have been a crash. If Hamilton wasn't there, there wouldn't have been a crash. All of those are silly arguments to have. The kerb was there. Max has had plenty of experience with that kerb in the past and knew it was there. He made the decision anyway and crashed because of it. If you drove your car into a wall that ran alongside a road. You'd be hard pushed explaining to the police that "the wall shouldn't have been there"

      Jake AndrewsJake AndrewsKun oldin
  • Agreed. It’s interesting how different opinions are from current and ex racers to TV viewers. Normal people will just never understand.

    Kido MarkKido Mark3 soat oldin
  • Just a couple of points that I would like cleared up. The first corner that you describe you assume that Max deliberately drove to the outside where to me it seems like they both braked that late that it was pure physics that took him out there. Point two is that a couple of crashes a go the Mercedes team were blaming Max because they said that when the guy on the inside has his front wheel beyond the half way point of the other car then the guy on the outside has to give him racing room. In this case, whilst Max started on the outside, by the time they crashed they were into the next corner and Max was on the inside and clearly had his front wheel more than half way. The evidence that Max was on the inside was the fact that his car flew to the right rather than the left and ended up on the front of Lewis's car showing that he was both in front and on the inside. Just my theory.

    Shovel GuggelheimShovel Guggelheim4 soat oldin
  • Wow... Not once during your video you apportioned any fault or blame to MV, but you blame #SirLH44 for leaving less than a car's width for Crashtappen to foolishly try to wedge himself between. Just like you said at 02:00 with them coming out of turn 3, when the positions were reversed. You said Lewis had no where to go, hence using the runoff... your commentary had several statements that were contradictory in nature...why didn't you suggest that MV do the same later on in the race? All Crashtappen had to do was use the runoff area when he realized he over_compensated going into turn 2 at 06:10... He would've ended behind the Merc for sure, but his race would've continued with more opportunities for over taking.. but apparently MV doesn't have the confidence in himself to race behind #SirLH44 and challenge for a pass, seems like he's hell-bent on getting ahead by any wreckless means necessary. Then you end your video after you chalked it up to a racing incident...all the while being subtle about blaming the 7 time world champion. #SirLH44 #stillwerise

    TheRastaYouthTheRastaYouth4 soat oldin
  • I'm my opinion Lewia has done nothing wrong, precedent says he acted fairly as the stewards had previously deemed Max's defenses within the rules and we want consistency. I get he perhaps could be more aggressive but having just come out of the pits and on cold tyres it's clear he wants the best run out of turn 2. Max on the other hand has made a clear misjudgement. Even if Lewis leaves more space it's unlikely he's going to make the move stick. Even on cold tyres Lewis likely gets a better run out of t2. Max should have expected there to be no room and done the double switch back. If he gets the better run out of two, he easily makes the pass into four. Is it enough for a pen, I'm not sure, and glad it was a small one. The only reason I would side on a pen is because Lewis has bailed twice before and taken the pain for trying an overly optimistic move on a driver too good to allow it. Max for me tries to stick it out too long and refuses to conceed that he's not pulled it off. And I think Max's body language, even if his words didnt, alluded to him accepting it too when ask about Imola and T4 in the post race interviews

    G.G. BaxterG.G. Baxter6 soat oldin
  • Verstappen wasn't at fault as such but in almost identical situations, Hamilton backed out every time this year.

    Phil BarrettPhil Barrett9 soat oldin
  • Excellent analysis. Exactly right - I think. But according to James Allison's (Mercedes engineering boss) opinion after the Silverstone '21 incident it should have been Lewis's mistake. Basically James said at the time - by the way that video is nowhere to be found anymore - that the FIA rules state that if a driver is "significantly alongside" on the inside (of the bend) the corner is his/hers. Now James mentioned this in regard of the Silverstone incident and by doing so implied that it was Verstappens fault that the Silverstone contact actually happened. And the stewards - or Micheal Masi, or both - agreed in their verdict that both drivers were responsible. But Lewis a little bit more - hence the 10 second penalty. So, if all this is correct - and please scold me when I'm wrong - I would say that Max was "significantly alongside" on the inside of turn two; and so the corner was his to take!? Lewis was at fault and should have left room for Max - just like he did after the start when Lando was alongside. But the stewards or Micheal Masi or both decided otherwise again and issued a penalty to Max which is in no way comparable to the 10 seconds Lewis had to endure at Silverstone. I'm lost.

    rvdvogtrvdvogt9 soat oldin
  • You guys will do anything to excuse Max Verstappen. Seven-time F1 world champion doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt from UZthe guys🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣ok

    K KK K10 soat oldin
  • 100% Verstappens fault. It was either overly optimistic try, or then he just wanted end the race for both. Even if Hamilton was not super aggressive in the first right hand corner, Max knew that there would not be room for both in the next turn. Lewis took the normal racing line as he was supposed to do, since he was clearly ahead. It would have made no sense to compromise the driving line and leave door open for Max.

    Anssi HelminenAnssi Helminen11 soat oldin
  • No way Lewis, slower, getting a blue flag for being slower and thus not allowed to block Max going full tilt down the straight... gave Max a car width before the corner.. There was no way for Max to safely continue on his line, and go down the outside. This caused Max to move out off the track, slow ever so slightly, meaning Lewis was first into the turn. First into the turn, with the right to own the corner, but... he hadn't claimed that right fairly. So Max went... fuck this guy... and held his line as if they had been right beside each other, which he would have been if Lewis hadn't blocked him. The problem is, you can't do that. Even though Lewis had arguably broken the rules, it doesn't mean if coming to the next corner if Max is behind, he can act as if they were beside each other, thus when it comes to the cause of the crash, he was predominantly to blame. In truth? Lewis created the situation where Max would do this, by not leaving room. It's the 2nd time they've crashed because Hamilton refused to leave the room he should have, in the race to the corner. Max should have avoided the crash, but I get it. I doubt Lewis would have been punished for the illegal block, it was too marginal so he took matters into his own hands. Just a heads up Lewis. Expect this for the rest of the season. If you stick a wheel up the inside, if you leave 9/10s of a car width to make it look like you left enough room when you know full well you didn't.... Max is going to crash into you.

    Richard MclachlanRichard Mclachlan11 soat oldin
  • n.. error

    sami myllykangassami myllykangas11 soat oldin
  • Your smoking crack mate... Verstappen knew exactly what he was doing.. He carried more speed into that turn than he did on other laps before it... He was clearly heard on thr radio raging about the pit.. He dived bomb into the corner trying to get ahead of Hamilton which clearly didn't.. Hamilton was always gonna hit the apex of that corner.. And verstappen knew it.. He made a calculated judgement that if he went for the corner he would shove Hamilton wide or take his car out.. Or both.. But both a win win has he new Hamilton would have had the pace to clearly make up the 5points to over haul... Verstappen too aggressive and will get someone killed..

    Geraint WilliamsGeraint Williams11 soat oldin
  • For me it was just driver's error by Max. There have been similar and even more intense duels in that chicane before, which ended w/o crash. But that's the allure of Monza - it's a game of nerves and psychology.

    QuantumS1ngularityQuantumS1ngularity11 soat oldin
  • Max was going 60kph faster than Lewis. Max is not going to slam on the brakes way earlier than necessary just to politely file in behind Hamilton. Bummer because seeing them battle it out for the entire race could've been very exciting racing.

    Nomi MaloneNomi Malone12 soat oldin
  • I like Max, but I do think he was at fault here, but I’m not a professional F1 driver, so what do I know.

    Nick CastingsNick Castings12 soat oldin
  • My Question is why does Max think everyone is supposed to get out of his way? Dont get me wrong this I hate to say it is what F1 needs right now but damn he needs to relax a bit.

    doug22231doug2223112 soat oldin
  • Exactly, Hamilton made the same mistake Verstappen did in Brasil with Ocon, leave a gab then close it off.

    MrShadowofthewindMrShadowofthewind13 soat oldin
  • 9:50 Is there really space there? With the trajectory of Hamilton’s car it’s clear that there will be no room to pass without going off track

    dolita windodolita windo15 soat oldin
  • Lulu has made mistakes only with racers whom are/were posing a threat to his championship like Max or Nico

    smurfiennes bluesmurfiennes blue16 soat oldin
    • the long straight. Verdtappen, even if he saw a slight opportunity, could’ve backed out at any point but wanted to prove a point, so for me the penalty is correct. I think Hamilton

      dolita windodolita windo15 soat oldin
  • Max was 100% at fault.

    WardeNWardeN17 soat oldin
  • I also think racing incident (since margins were so tight that while you can't blame max for attempting an overtake he believed to be on, you also can't blame lewis for not giving more space since theres hardly any space for him to give in the first place) but I don't really see how you can expect another driver to go off track in normal circumstances, run off is there to provide a safe area to go to after a mistake has been made. Key word being *mistake* meaning something has happened that *shouldn't* ideally happen, I think you should treat track limits as if there is a wall there because even if it is completely clear, once a car goes off everything is off the table, whether that driver tries to reenter safely or not they could reenter in an unpredictable way.

    RWoody1995RWoody199518 soat oldin
  • For the german car team, it's Bottas' fault - ask White Wolff and James...

    Fuck Xi JinPOOH Va-chinaFuck Xi JinPOOH Va-china19 soat oldin
  • Can anyone remember the last time Max took an escape road?

    Andrew StaceyAndrew Stacey20 soat oldin
  • !00% agree. Good analysis..

    David KerwoodDavid Kerwood21 soat oldin
  • “Who’s Fault?” ?? Sacrificed grammar for space?

    rdspamrdspam22 soat oldin
  • So your logic is that it wasn't Ver fault cause he unlike Ham wasn't an a$$? #fanboy

    Clem HartClem Hart23 soat oldin
  • 5:33 That is nonsense... Do you even hear their radios during races when stuff like that happens?

    Red boyRed boyKun oldin
  • Verstappen apologist. Verstappen forces Hamilton off track? That's okay. Verstappen refuses to go off track? That's a racing incident. No, it isn't. Verstappen routinely forces drivers off-track so he should be perfectly aware of what is happening because it's a technique he uses all the time. So this incident was 100% Verstappen's fault. Brilliant driver though he is, Verstappen still lacks maturity and common sense.

    David GappDavid GappKun oldin
  • Awesome analysis coming from a driver's point of view.

    Ian JIan JKun oldin
  • i am dutch and i am sure a lot of british people will disagree with you. a lot of non british media say its just a race incident and there wasnt any need for a grid penalty...you are a brave man to disagree with his royal highnes sir lewis

    bent andrebent andreKun oldin
  • Your kidding enough space 🤣 if Max had half a brain he would have taken the slip road and readdressed it instead he took himself out so all racers are Win it or bin it not really smart.

    Donald SmithDonald SmithKun oldin
  • What i think? It was just a Racing incident, however I also think they (FIA) should just let them drive, fast, fair and hard and not punish all Racing incidents

    G SchaafG SchaafKun oldin
  • 🤡🤡🤡

    MRADER55MRADER55Kun oldin
  • I think Hamilton left the space so he didn’t compromise the following straight too much. He was expecting Verstappen to do the classic "cut back" and have better line going into the long straight. Verdtappen, even if he saw a slight opportunity, could’ve backed out at any point but wanted to prove a point, so for me the penalty is correct. I think Hamilton could win this championship purely because of immaturity/arrogance, almost similar to Schumacher. (This comes from someone who is huge Hamilton fan, but thinks Verstappen is the quicker driver in F1 currently!)

    Adam HoltAdam HoltKun oldin
  • Don’t care, hope Sebastian and Mick keep on improving.

    Fabian N. Leon MedinaFabian N. Leon MedinaKun oldin
  • I think Hamilton left the space so he didn’t compromise the following straight too much. He was expecting Verstappen to do the classic "cut back" and have better line going into the long straight. Verdtappen, even if he saw a slight opportunity, could’ve backed out at any point but wanted to prove a point, so for me the penalty is correct. I think Hamilton could win this championship purely because of immaturity/arrogance, almost similar to Schumacher. (This comes from someone who is huge Hamilton fan, but thinks Verstappen is the quicker driver in F1 currently!)

    Adam HoltAdam HoltKun oldin
  • Another defender of Max's dangerous attitude, downplaying it, so he'll keep pulling dangerous moves. Well done!! RBR has a place in management for you.

    Alex ManojlovicAlex ManojlovicKun oldin
    • You already forgot silverstone ? That was not Verstappen, that was Hamilton.

      MrShadowofthewindMrShadowofthewind13 soat oldin
  • "these drivers work at a much higher level than that" Except MaxyPoops the wikkle boy racer. He's a hothead lunatic

    Alex ManojlovicAlex ManojlovicKun oldin
  • Really interested why people think racers HAVE to leave room - WHY? they’re there to win and race and as a fan who wants to see hard racing - I don’t want Hamilton to just GIVE him the spot…

    Alexander WatsonAlexander WatsonKun oldin
  • I think it's much, much simpler than this. Verstappen puts his car in such a position where he's virtually saying to the other driver: "either move out of the way, or there's going to be a crash." And then he'll leave it to you to either have that crash or preserve your car and move out of the way. Senna used to do the same thing. The difference being that Senna had many more talents and capabilities and Verstappen doesn't. Verstappen is no Senna. It's just that someone seems to have put it into his head that he is - either himself, Horner, that thug of a father of his, or probably, a mixture of all of them. Up until now people have just been jumping out of the way of Verstappen because they want to stay in the race and preserve their chances. Verstappen now has it in his head that everybody will/should just jump out of his way when he attempts an overtake. Although when I say "overtake", a more accurate descriptor on many occasions would be "shoving someone off". Hamilton has now obviously decided that he's going to stop just jumping out of the way, and decided that he will put it back to Verstappen - okay, I'm not going to just move out of the way, it's back to you to decide whether to have that crash. And Verstappen, having absolutely no concept of self-preservation, causes a crash. That's really all there is to it. Verstappen has for his entire F1 career being using this trick constantly, so when someone opposes it, there are fireworks. On this occasion the overtake just was not there and never was. He was trying to fit his car into a space into which it just would not go. The sensible thing to do would be to pull out of it, but again, Verstappen has no sense of self preservation. A driver with no sense of self preservation is a danger to all other drivers. Having looked back at clips of his time in other formulas, it's quite clear he was doing the same trick since way back. Even in his karting days, he was virtually just shoving people off the track and he still is doing. I think he is very one dimensional. He has the faster car - he would be even further in front if he had used his head at Silverstone and gone wider and lived to fight another day, instead of cutting acutely right, making contact, and exiting the race. Expect more crashes. Hamilton has decided he isn't going to put up with it anymore, Verstappen has decided nothing will change, ergo there will be collisions. All that's left to decide is how serious the collision will be. One of these days, he's either going to seriously maim or kill another driver, himself, or both. Silverstone was the one warning of this he's ever going to get. He hasn't heeded it.

    Stig10001Stig10001Kun oldin
  • Why every one is hasitating to say clearly that crashtappen is at fault. He has a history of crashes & pushing others out of the road & corners. Its going to happen again in Turkey, turn 1 or turn 14.

    Safar and TravelSafar and TravelKun oldin
  • Lewis knew what he was doing he wasn't going to win the race but points haven't changed and he has the advantage in the next one. Max was played hook line and sinker a master class in how to win the championship

    robert toplissrobert toplissKun oldin
  • What an utter load of nonsense. Because Lewis didn't run him off the road (and also slow himself down in the process increasing the risk of losing the place at the next corner) then it's just a racing incident? Verstappen was going for a gap that was never ever going to be there. There was precisely zero percent chance that the move was going to come off successfully. He never got in front and was never in control of the corner. He had exactly two options. 1, bail out, go over the runoff and try to get a good run for a move at the next corner or 2. Crash into Lewis and hope to be able to keep going himself. He chose option 2. Deliberate and cynical move with only one intention in mind being crash and hope to get lucky. It's made even worse by the fact that Lewis tried much the same thing earlier but was professional enough to realise it wasn't on so didn't try to force the impossible against a petulant child.

    Lunny22Lunny22Kun oldin
  • Great commentary. What? No instant replay? Whoever is in the lead has the benefit of doubt for he can not see behind him. Passing on a narrow switch-back was pretty presumptuous even for my favorite driver, Lewis Hamilton.

    Jamie SmithJamie SmithKun oldin
  • Go home Lewis!!! All blame on you!!!

    josef salonjosef salonKun oldin
  • It was clearly Ericson

    CatsoPouerCatsoPouerKun oldin
  • Great analysis, thanks!

    Mark EaglesMark EaglesKun oldin
  • ...and in the end Bottas will win the championship

    terence tableterence tableKun oldin
  • You should ask yourself, over the course of both drivers careers which one has had the most on track incidents, and of those who was at fault the most?

    Nick BrennanNick BrennanKun oldin
  • One important piece left out: Verstappen's pit stop was messed up because it was too good. The red light didn't turn of because the right front wheel gun man had finished his job under two seconds. All because of new bullshit rulings 9 seconds extra to reset. This is racing at it the top. And then saying you can't be too fast. All of this resulting in this incident. And as you stated LH was on cold tyres whilst MV wasn't. How is it possible MV gets penalized as if itis all his fault? I think LH must win the championship this year one more time.

    Alex KAlex KKun oldin
  • It's redbulls fault for the very slow stop 🤣🤣

    Glen SargentGlen SargentKun oldin
  • Max is very frustrating. In the 1st incident at turn 3 he was in front and so deliberately forced Lewis off the track. He did not give any room to Lewis. But in the 2nd incident Lewis was in front and could have done the same and force Max of the track and afterwards Max complains that Lewis did not give him room!! Max never backs out even when it is obvious that he is behind and cannot overtake. Lewis was in front and did nothing wrong!! I believe Max realised that the best scenario was to force Lewis to let him through or crash. Either scenario was an advantage to Max. Totally cynical.

    Melvyn HiscottMelvyn HiscottKun oldin
  • Mad Max at Monza I din't care about either of them, just giant egos who are too detrmined to win whether their car is the best or not. I want the best car to win, not crash, by being faster, not because its driver takes bigger risks. Perhaps we should have them race by remote control with auto anti collision software? Lewis hit the Apex, Max tried to overtake entirely on the side of the track where was no where to drive safely. Deliberate, stupid. He then tried to force Lewis off the apex by threatening a crash - into the leading driver.. Just ban him, he's dangerous in the model of the equally dangerous Schumacher and Senna. Killers on the track, prepared to risk death ramming the better car to win. This is racing? They didn't dare do this when they could die. Perhaps F1 got too safe, so these over confident egotists do stupid things and expect to survive them. Make F1 less safe so they avoid collisions and the stuoid ones die "pur enciuragee les autres" to drive safely?? On this measure, Max is as daft as Grossjean, that was a full Grossjean manoeuvre. A stupid way to try to overtake and a crash was the only and obvious result of the move he decided to make. If that's modern F1 racing, it should be shut down, or the cars fitted with barge boards / fenders, roll cage and stock car racing kit. It doesn't deserve the technology that goes into it. The nonsense about being aggressive is simply red mist merchants justifying taking stupid risks. Grossjean style again. More care and caution is required to take care of these cars and discourage over aggressive racing. Either the cars are better than each other or they are not. If drivers have to crash such delicate cars with exposed suspensions and aerodynamics into each other to win it makes NO sense at all. That's the "too stupid to watch" touring car "racing", a demolition derby as to who can crash into the other guys and spin them off best and get away with it more often. If F1 goes that way then its no longer the cutting edge if technology, it's just Mad Max in overpriced kit, a stupid sport. Perhaps they could change F1 to a more stock car formula? The current dogem car generation of drivers would prefer that. Make the cars the same and see which driver can crash the others off the track more often. Right up the street of a Verstappen, Grossjean, Montoya, Schumacher, Senna. Unwatchable stupidity.

    Brian CattBrian CattKun oldin
  • I don't understand why we analyse this incident. It is so obviously clear that Max deliberately collided with Lewis to take him out of the race when he is unable to overtake him. Nobody overtakes in a chicane unless if it is a street race. It is Max's fault. He deserves the grid penalty.

    Winston DanielWinston DanielKun oldin
  • You say they are professional but they are human too and max carry the Frustration after the poor Redbull pitstop is time to Max grow up is time thanks God THE HALO 🙏🏼

    Jean RiveraJean RiveraKun oldin
  • You realy don't want to know what i think who was wrong and who was right. Le Clercq did the same as Max did and Lewis Hamilton let Jim live, Max did the same and Lewis Hamilton hit Jim. So who is fault. In my view Lewis Hamilton is. Didn't gave him room.

    Foxman01Foxman01Kun oldin
  • So because hamilton wasn't as aggressive as he should have been, it caused max to be more aggressive? What a terrible argument.

    wiggit07wiggit07Kun oldin
  • Both drivers contributed to the crash. Therefore, it is extremely unfair to penalize Max three spots in the next race without giving Lewis any penalty.

    njgrplr2007njgrplr2007Kun oldin
  • Using the example where max pushed him off was a good example but as he said the turn 1-2 is much tighter. If you look at the replay where lando norris overtook lewis in the same corner. With an simular situation lewis let lando have more space in turn 2 where it was fair.

    EJREJRKun oldin
  • From what you're saying I get the impression that LH wants two things at the same time: 1 pushing MV as much as he can to the run off and 2 keeping the line for a perfect apex in order to run away from MV after this corner. He forgot that MV doesn't want to be pushed and will push back! The result is what we all saw, LH's and MV's car having car sex.

    Theo BoltTheo BoltKun oldin
  • Hmmm drivers are meant to leave space, Max never does but you continue to back drivers pushing others off the track

    David HoughtonDavid HoughtonKun oldin
    • Max drives people off the track he’s applauded, Lewis does it and he gets mobbed. I just don’t get the double standards

      David HoughtonDavid HoughtonKun oldin
  • I find it interesting the the stewards feel it necessary to assign a three place grid penalty to Max for a racing incident when previously in Silverstone, Lewis was clearly at fault and only received a 10 second penalty. Favoritism in Hamilton’s favor… again.

    Keith PowleyKeith PowleyKun oldin
    • We'll ignore all the ducking, weaving and blocking that Verstappen was doing all the way round on that first lap. He was behaving like an idiot. There always was going to be a crash with him acting like that. The stewards said that Hamilton was*predominantly* at fault - that's the key. They thought Verstappen was to balme as well, but Hamilton more so. Obviously they decided this time that Verstappen was much more predominantly at fault.

      Stig10001Stig10001Kun oldin
  • There is no discussion is there. Just what the hell was Verstappen thinking, clearly there was never going to be room for a car to get thru the second turn, being kind I would have to say that was clear madness to even consider that move. I do not want to think that he deliberately took Hamilton out simply because he had a points advantage.

    Brian StevensonBrian StevensonKun oldin
  • At the comment at 9:32 you are not really correct, because Hamilton was way of the apex at that point. Ther was still lots of room on the inside of the first corner. So he missed the apex exactly the same way as Verstappen, but less commited. I believe Hamilton pusht Verstappen of the track. The same way Norris en Perez at the Austrian Grandprix.

    Dhr. M. BovenlanderDhr. M. BovenlanderKun oldin
  • Everything you said is correct. But why no one is mentioning that lewis turned into the 2nd corner as if Max is not there. He didn't have the right to the corner, Max is there along side him, by FIA standars the car needs to be along side you with the nose at least over the middle of your car in order to earn a space. Lewis squeezed too late and he kept turning even when Max was pushed to the sausage kerb. I blame Lewis in this RACING INCIDENT, no penalites should have been applied.

    Hristijan StojchevskiHristijan StojchevskiKun oldin
  • Hammiltons fault

    dandanKun oldin
  • It seems to me in these last two collisions that Max goes faster than he otherwise would, or should, at a corner to make it appear as though Lewis is at fault. If you removed Lewis from the track completely, Max would likely not make the corner in any sensible shape at that speed, if at all. I'm no fan of Lewis (I think he's quite unpleasant), but Max is just being ridiculous, quite dangerous, and claiming it's racing 'aggression'.

    Peter KellyPeter KellyKun oldin
  • Max is a spoiled daddy's boy,who feels a chip is owed to him.

    Aaron StansberryAaron StansberryKun oldin
  • I’m just glad they both crashed out and none of them benefitted from coming together. Makes every race juicier!!

    SkillStackBasketballSkillStackBasketballKun oldin
  • This is what happens when you do not leave space, right? The fault for this belongs to RB mechanics at the pit. Clear as daylight.

    Tony GTony GKun oldin
  • Yes lets just look at it from Maxs' perspective. Max could/should have baled and you know it as Lewis did previously. Max is, currently, way too aggressive if he has the option he would rather take an opponent out than lose position. He just does not accept the premise that to score points you have to finish races. Until he accepts this fact he will not win his first WDC. He has a very similar driving mentality to our old friend Mr Schumacher - fair means or foul will do it. I suspect you are somewhat biased here.

    WCADSWCADSKun oldin
  • Really Bad analysis the comparisons to previous incidents is so bad the both drivers a outbreak themselves on the other occasion! That’s why max missed the apex so not the same! Lewis is protected all the time.. gets all the decisions. Hamilton knew exactly what he was doing. It is aggressive move by max but Hamilton closed the door too late literally left max with nothing

    Michael WhyteMichael WhyteKun oldin
  • Racing incident.

    Tracie WilliamsTracie WilliamsKun oldin
  • In my eyes, Verstappen knew he couldn’t keep with lewis and knew the possible consequences of his actions. Both them being taken out is advantage Verstappen. Hamilton winning, even with Verstappen in the race would have been advantage Hamilton. Reminds me of the Schumacher/Hill incident. Clearly no room and that door was shut way before Verstappen decided to go. Silly boy!

    Lee DaviesLee DaviesKun oldin
  • Good breakdown . It’s clear that max is happy to turn F1 in to a contact motorsport this wont be the last time.

    misolou foutmisolou foutKun oldin
  • What you are saying is that there is the possibility that Lewis deliberately left the gat inviting Max into it then hoping that by closing it Max would have hit the sausage kerb and damaged his car forcing him out of the race allowing himself a clear chance of the win, and not expecting what did happen. Perhaps the fault lies with the way tracks are designed these days with the big sausage kerbs, the overly large run-off areas where drivers know they can leave the track without penalty of exiting the race (just losing a little time), is it not time to bring back gravel traps where a driver knows 'If I leave the track my race is over", while as things are leaving the track does no more that place you in the hands of the FIA who today more than ever have a huge part in deciding who wins the Chanpionship.

    Geoff HowardGeoff HowardKun oldin
    • @misolou fout And Lewis doesn't? Take a look at Monaca some years ago, Lewis was prepared to put five drivers out of the race.

      Geoff HowardGeoff HowardKun oldin
    • Basically max pushes everyone off who's gonna overtake him and gets mad when the same happens to him

      misolou foutmisolou foutKun oldin
  • At this point in the race Hamilton was within rights to close the gap but Varstappen's over aggressive nature wouldn't let him concede. Lewis was fair on the first turn because he understands Max's nature but Max would have seen the door closing on the second turn. Max used his car like a weapon and confirmed that by saying "that's what you get when you don't leave space"??? Sounds a bit arrogant and more importantly dangerous to me!

    ADDO-HILL PROPERTY MANAGEMENTADDO-HILL PROPERTY MANAGEMENTKun oldin
  • You blame Lewis for not running Max off the road, and you say that most racing drivers including you would have deliberately rushed headlong into the inevitably closing wedge and the inevitable accident kamikaze style - despite them operating at a superhuman next level of perception. hmmm. Max has been running Lewis off the road all season (there were several other incidents earlier in the year), with his bullying 'I'd rather crash and kill us both than let you win' approach. Glad to see Lewis fighting back! Max is a psycho, penalty should have been more.

    Alpha DogAlpha DogKun oldin
  • @Driver61 you are a Max super fan …. we understand you love this young gunner but you r biased tbh …. … maybe it’s time i unsubscribe

    owen furameraowen furameraKun oldin
  • Detail: Lewis did NOT make the apex on the corner (9:15)

    Arthur WiltingArthur WiltingKun oldin
  • Max had a advance in corner 2 He could use the sausage as a Gutter

    S KS KKun oldin
  • So now it's Hamilton's fault because he didn't push Max more aggressively? And pushing and crashing is considered skillful driving nowadays?

    Nenad VićentićNenad VićentićKun oldin
  • Lewis

    Michael TaylorMichael TaylorKun oldin
  • Sorry but for years people have been saying max causes too many accidents cos of his over aggressive driving.

    darth pauldarth paulKun oldin
  • Bosto to everyone listening 🕊🇬🇧 love Lewis 🕊

    Sarah 369Sarah 369Kun oldin
  • Wow thank you - that’s the most detailed, balanced, unbiased and insightful analysis of the incident I’ve seen to date ( and I’ve watched a lot ). Great channel, Subscribed !

    Amos 01Amos 01Kun oldin
  • Good job trying to be neutral but at the very start of race and in the sprit race with Danny, kinda same situation they backed off and made the correct choice where’s as max as always think he has right away end of day max went for a gap that he should of known would be closed very quickly and fucked up. 6 years of racing at the top end and he still hasn’t grown up. Jackie Stewart hit the nail on the head.

    Mike AnsonMike AnsonKun oldin
    • And before the max lovers start, at silverstone Lewis was in the wrong and got the pen. However it will be seen if max is good enough to make the pen count for nothing like Lewis did.

      Mike AnsonMike AnsonKun oldin
  • If you’re a Max fan, it’s Hamilton’s fault. If you’re a Hamilton fan, it’s Max’s fault! Move on!

    Andy BrownAndy BrownKun oldin
  • Verstappen was behind, and he should have given up. But on the other hand Lewis knew it was Max, who doesn,t give up. Max has to learn when to let go. Beacause this season Lewis seems to be ruthless. Anyway that is what Max has been doing all the time, but now the other one doesn't budge.

    WeeJiiWeeWeeJiiWeeKun oldin
  • Fare breakdown.👏🏾

    WesEntertainmentWesEntertainmentKun oldin
  • Verstappen will not be happy until he kills someone with his consistently dangerous driving, he need to be deducted point or serve a one race ban.

    james reynoldsjames reynoldsKun oldin
  • Basically max pushes everyone off who's gonna overtake him and gets mad when the same happens to him

    Yusuf KhanYusuf KhanKun oldin
    • no lol, did u even watch the video?

      CaldieCaldieKun oldin
  • If Lewis had done at T1 what max did at T3 then he would have got a penalty for forcing max off the track, we’ve seen it time and time again.

    ben westonben westonKun oldin
  • Max needs to work out how to win a championship... the way he is going he never will. At this stage of his racing career he is an eejut... a brilliant racing driver but none the less an eejut! Since 2015 (when Max started his F1 career) he has had some 30ish DNFs with a large majority of these due to accidents... Lewis has had something like 6 or so DNFs and a few of these have been due to mechanical failure. Sure Max has been mostly in the pack... in the thick of it. But analyse his driving and you will find a fair high % is self-inflicted or at the very least, had he not been unaware and placing his car in dumb places, avoidable. Lewis on the other hand serenely sail on, albeit mostly out of danger at the front, placing his car in positions least likely to be hit by others. Note the number of times Lewis gives way to the eejut on track around him. How many times have we seen Lewis hit by another car this year? 🤔 any guesses as to who was in the other car at the time? Anyone seeing a pattern here? I am a fan of both drivers but, until Max grows up, I regret to say we will forever see him floundering around not winning the championships he should win... just remember that he does have just about the best car under him this season and yet he is still struggling to consolidate his position. There might just be a reason for this... time will tell.

    Charles von RoretzCharles von RoretzKun oldin
  • Max is a joke, he makes no attempt to follow the racing line and does everything he can to push Hamilton off track and Hamilton bails like he should yet when Lewis does the same to max he cries that he was forced into that position and no option but to park his car on top of the Mercedes, to quote max “that’s what you get when you don’t leave the space” The mans dangerous.

    ben westonben westonKun oldin
  • These 2 drivers have egos bigger than F1 payback for Silverstone

    Peter AronPeter AronKun oldin
  • He took Hamilton out nothing difficult to judge.Hamilton brake to avoid crash.He knows that Vespa going to race like that this season.zHe crashed in to him knowing he still will be leading championship.Lewis is going to have to be aggressive to win this championship title.Stop playing nice guy ,Vespa knows he’s got the crowd.

    Damian PryceDamian PryceKun oldin
  • The fault is with the pit exit, you see Lewis coming out of the pit and blocking Max right away even if Max was coming faster then Lewis who coming out of the pits so that's why I say that it's the pit exit who's at fault, making the exit longer ('till the beginning of the curve) would make faster uncoming drivers know that cars coming out of the pits would have no choice as what lane to take (like in Monaco first turn)

    Old Rock GeeserOld Rock Geeser2 kun oldin
  • The most important thing in motor racing is that IF you want to win a race, you MUST finish the race. You MUST keep the car circulating. Hamilton could have been much kinder to himself as much as anyone else.

    tjrtjr2 kun oldin
  • I can't believe you, as a racer, advocate pushing another driver off the track when they were completely along side you at the turn in point (lap 1). Not every track has as much run off as F1 tracks. It might be a good show for F1, but extremely reckless and hazardous driving for all the club racers out there on non-F1 tracks.

    Brian KennedyBrian Kennedy2 kun oldin